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- Subject: Clipper Forum Message 554967
- Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:12:23 GMT
- Organization: Netcom
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-
- The following message was originally posted in the Clipper forum on
- CIS. It was moved from public view and is posted here with permission
- of the author.
-
- Subj: FiveWin and Law issues Section: 3rd Party Support
- To: ALL Thursday, January 18, 1996 9:26:07 AM
- From: Francisco Morero, 103523,3465 #554967
-
- HOW FIVEWIN 1.0 WAS DONE
-
- Complying with the wishes of many people that are interested in this
- matter, and considering this subject an important one (even though it's
- not a technical subject), I'm coming out of my silence (it's about
- time) and say publicly what I and some other people know.
-
- * I know Antonio Linares since I was around 8 or 9 years old. We
- went together to grammar school, high school and the 1st year of
- college. We have worked together in several projects for at least 5
- years, and both have consulted each other in a multitude of occasions.
-
- * Mr. Linares, in one occasion, called me to my house ( he used
- to called almost daily) to ask me to help him with a problem he
- couldn't resolve. Back then, Mr. Linares was a beta-tester of Clip4Win
- and was working on the same thing, porting Clipper to Windows. When I
- got to his house, he told me "I've been like crazy for several days
- trying to find out how John Skelton did it" ( porting Clipper to
- Windows ). Then he showed me two files loaded on his word-processor
- (Qedit). This two files were the original from Clipper and the
- same module from Clip4Win, both DISASSEMBLED. Then he proceeded to
- show me the differences between both modules and said "Look how Skelton
-
- has touched the module, just like a surgeon: a couple of things here
- and there" ( those who knows Antonio Linares will recognized one of his
- favorite phrases whenever he finds something/somebody very good: "like
- a surgeon" ).
-
- * After showing me the disassembled code, he asked me to help him
-
- figure out how Clip4Win worked internally to reproduce it into his new
- project ( later known as Fivewin 1.0 ). This I did not agree with so I
- didn't help.
-
- * A few weeks later, we bumped into each other in a computer
- store of a common friend. After chatting for about 2 hours, he confess
- to me that he could figure out most of the operatoria of Clip4Win but
- there was a couple of modules
- that resisted him.
-
- * After this, Antonio Linares and I have serious discrepancies
- and we stopped to treat each other with the same tone. From persons
- very close to me, and _VERY_ close to Antonio Linares, I know for a
- fact how this issue about the resisting modules was resolved by Mr.
- Linares, but respecting this persons wishes, I can only mention here
- what Mr. Linares told me.
-
- * About all the things I have mentioned here I ( and several
- other people that I can't mentioned here ) have FACTUAL PROOFS for a
- long time. Here in this public forum I put myself, my testimony and all
- the proofs I have to the entire disposition of Mr. Skelton whenever he
- wants or need them so this issue can be clarify once and for all.
-
- * I'M READY TO TESTIFY EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE IN FRONT OF
- ANY JUDGE OR COURT, PUT MYSELF THROUGH A LIAR DETECTOR IF NECESSARY.
-
- * This are not calumnies, but a FORMAL DECLARATION OF FACTS.
- For now, I have nothing more to say, and unless the rest of the users
- of this media ask me to do so. Of course, I reserve the right to keep
- talking about this subject ( or any other I consider of public interest
- to all CA-Clipper users and third-party tools ).
-
- NOTE: All I've said here written in my poor English, is also written in
- another document in perfect castillian Spanish and it's at the
- disposition of any who wishes to have it.
-
- Francisco Morero.
-
-